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Cat and the Underdogs releases their LP soon and
it's a cascade of punk rock that it's supposed
to sound. I mean a little bit more like it
sounded back in the day as old as I am. Read and
enjoy. May-2022
Tell us the story of Cat and the Underdogs? How
did you come to meet each other and start
playing together?
Åke: Jarle came up to me at a party and asked if
we could start a band. He had a drummer and a
guitarist, so he just had to get going. It
turned out that the drummer Lars I played with
in my first punk band in 1980, Nihilisterna. We
started rehearsing covers to get started and
eventually started writing our own. After
consuming two singers, we really got going when
Marcus joined the band, which has since then
quit the band.
Tell us a little about each member? Band before,
band onte side, what are you working with?
Åke: Works as a Job Consultant at Karlstad
Municipality and helps people get out into jobs.
Played Punk since 1979, including in
Nihilisterna Hollywood Indians, Loss S-hall and
E.A.T.E.R. Fredrik: Advisor in IT when I'm not
drumming. Played and plays with a little bit of
everything. The first time I heard Ebba I was
floored and it's still there.
Jarle: Works in a company that deals with
digital marketing. Played with our guitarist
Håkan in Motor City Madhouse from 89-96, before
that I played in various bands in Oslo,
including Suicide Pilots.
Håkan: IT-something... Plays guitar in AVSKUM
when he gets time from Cat and the Underdogs.
Thomas: Teacher, played in a variety of Punk
bands in the early 80s, including in 491, Svea
Rike II and Mormors Mamelucker before joining
Hollywood Indians, together with Åke in the 80s.
I think there are influences from early punk?
How would you describe your music yourselves?
Åke: Yes, that's where we are and listen to
Proto Punk and Punk 1977 to 1981. Play the music
that we grew up to and still listen to, music
that has shaped me into what I am today.
How does it work when you make songs, is it one
of you who does the songs or how does it work
when you make songs?
Åke: It is usually Håkan or I who brings an idea
for the rehearsal room. Then the whole band is
included and do things. When we get started, we
often end up in a cruel creative flow, tone
after note, chord after chord, chorus after
verse, nice guitar riffs, choirs, good rhythm
section and a lead vocals that tops everything.
Tell us a bit about the songs...
-Positive Id Åke: Some riffs that I put together
after a week of intensive listening to OFF!,
Circle Jerks and Keith Morris' book.
Thomas: The text started with the title, I think
Åke came up with it. Then I built a story around
the title. A little game with that image of a
tough cop pushing a maybe not entirely innocent
kid up against the wall. We've all seen the
scene in some Hollywood movie. Hard cop muddies
a "punk"! Not so damn serious text really...
-Is there a truth Åke: After an idea by Håkan, I
think it was shelved twice before we got it
together. When Håkan came with the sting between
the verse and the chorus, the song was done.
Thomas: About the text. A reflection on what it
is we spread on our social media. That it's
quick to spread and share things that we often
don't scrutinize so damn closely. Maybe we
should take a breath before spreading what we
think we know, what we believe is truth. Is
there even a single truth... of course not. And
it becomes so easy polarization. Right now, the
West is following the war in Ukraine as if it's
some kind of Netflix series. But we forget other
wars, conflicts and disasters that we have
stopped following, such as the war in Syria,
conflicts in the Horn of Africa, Yemen, etc. We
are devoured by one disaster at a time. I'm
afraid the news might find something new to
follow. Long answer to one hell of a text. But
but...
-Gimme everything Åke: I wanted to get the same
pressure in the riff that Brian James has in I
Feel Alright on Damned's first LP and that The
Leather Nun has in No Rule. After a couple of
rehearsals, we had gotten the rest together.
Thomas: This song has been released before with
Marcus on vocals. Wanted to put my own stamp on
the song. Wanted it harder in the song. More
desperate.. "Give me anything.." is the last
phrase in the text. I've been there, and it's
easy to identify in that part of the text that
Marcus wrote.
What types of bands do you play with when you're
out playing?
Åke: Other Punk bands that do the similar style
to us, Punk Rock n Roll, 77-Punk some UK82 bands
and so on.
What's the weirdest band you've had a concert
with?
Åke: We haven't had anything really weird, have
we!??
Thomas: The weirdest thing is the members of
this band. An unlikely constellation of people.
Jarle: The Wharf Street Galaxy Band that we
played with in Leeds and York were perhaps not
strange but a bit odd, in a good way.
When we're talking about music, how do you see
on punk?
Åke: I try to look for new good bands at
Bandcamp and also buy a lot of records at
Bandcamp, the best source for new bands if you
ask me. The best way is to check other users who
bought the same discs and then check what they
have bought for other discs. So, I've found
Stiff Richards, Sons of Southern Ulster, Satanic
Togas, Bad Nerves, Chain Whip, Zero Zeroes,
Cyanide Pills, can say bands all day.
Is it just a style of music or a lifestyle?
Åke: If you used to be Punk, then you probably
never was.
Jarle: A style of music that became a lifestyle,
punk has shaped me into who I am and it never go
out...
How has that idea changed over the years?
Åke: Guess Punk has shaped large parts of my
life, a lot of stupid choices, but also some
hopefully wise choices based on how you live and
have lived. To old to die young! More punk or
less punk? Åke: It depends on how you define
Punk? The irresponsible bit, give the fuck in
everything attitude is well back in time. But
always trying to be present in the here and now.
Cat and the Underdogs how did that name come up?
Jarle: A friend and I decided one day just over
ten years ago to start a band after I hadn't
played anything for 15 years (with the exception
of a substitute in Håkan's second band Avskum at
a festival in Finland). Her name is Catrin,
she's called Catta so there we had Cat. Then I
have a penchant for underdogs in sports, the
fact that I'm a fan of both Leeds United and
Degerfors IF says the most about that particular
bit. We thought Cat and the Underdogs sounded
like a good name so we just went on with it.
Who is Cat in the band and who are the
underdogs?
Åke: We are always the underdogs who beat at a
disadvantage!
Otherwise What is the favorite band name around
the world?
Åke: It must probably be The Clash, actually, I
like short, punchy names. OFF! is also quite
difficult to beat.
Jarle: Personally, I'm very weak for Flesh for
Lulu as a band name. Åke's old band Hollywood
Indians also had a brilliant name.
How is it to you play this kind of music today,
what kind of groups inspire you?
Åke: As I said earlier, this is the music that
we grew up to and love just as much still, we
play music that we like ourselves and have no
ambitions to develop the band into something
else. I listen a lot to KBD-Punk, the bands I
find on Bandcamp, Aussie Punk, British 77-Punk
and a lot of US-Punk.
What kind of audience do you have?
Åke: Very mixed audience, 65-year-old
proggpeople, overwintered old punks, teachers,
out-of-towners, the occasional youth and people
who like punk in general.
Are there any people that you are missing?
Åke: It would be fun to have a little more young
people who could lower the average age a
little... Haha!
You've got a pretty lovely sound on your
recording, do you do everything yourselves or is
there a producer involved?
Åke: We are very proud of the record that Chips
Kiesbye has produced and Henryk Lipp has mixed.
When Chips got some time to go when he made
Hellacopter's latest, he mixed up Cat and the
Underdogs. He managed to find things in our
songs that we didn't even know about. So there's
a lot of work behind the record and a couple of
years in the rehearsal room.
Your lyrics otherwise, what are they about? Does
music and politics always belong together? Why
or why not?
Thomas: There's always a risk of getting a
little high-minded and pretentious when you're
going to raise politics or current affairs. And
sounding angry like you were in your teens
doesn't work the same way anymore. So then there
will be some texts more open to interpretation.
But also some universal human reflections. About
life, relationships, addiction and freedom from
addiction. And someone is like a contemplation
of cybersex, about porn surfing... Where does it
go? Some lyrics we have inherited from Marcus,
he had a way of finding cool phrases that I can
envy sometimes.
Are there any good political bands that you guys
like?
Åke: The Clash of course, Billy Bragg, early
Crass, Sons of Southern Ulster, Stiff Little
Fingers... I guess I like bands that have
something to say, like Baxter Dury says "If you
got nothing to say, don't say it".
Are there any other bands in Sweden that you can
recommend?
Åke: There are many good Swedish bands, Trubbel,
Tjänstemännen, Headons, Paper, Troublemakers,
APA GBG, Viagra Boys, Åtgärdsprogrammet, RP,
City Saints, The Bwanas, Hjelle, Les Big Byrd,
can rattle off bands here also the rest of the
day...
Any good bands in your hometown?
Åke: Yes there are, RP, Rob Coffinshaker's
different constellations and a bunch of doctors
who have a band called Lyrica.
Thomas: Deadly Spirits from Karlstad.
Is it important to get physical records out do
you think?
Åke: For me, it's important to be able to
release an LP or 7", it's a piece of culture I
think. The feeling of being able to take on
music, it is priceless.
This will be a vinyl or how is it?
Åke: In mid-July, it will be released on DDR
Records in Ludvika, we also have some contacts
outside Europe, but nothing is ready yet.
Do you buy a lot of records yourself, are you
collectors?
Åke: I buy a lot of records and collect, sad
only when the UK left the EU and that it became
so much more expensive to order records from
there.
Jarle: I buy a lot of vinyl and if you have a
specific record in, for example, five copies
with five different color shades on the cover,
you are probably some kind of collector - then
it's an eternal search and hunting for things
you miss...
Which is the most expensive record you have?
Åke: There are a few, a test press on a Cramps
picture 12", Vårdad Klädsel and quite a few
more. I had eight original 7" with Misfits,
including a perfect copy of Cough Cool, but
unfortunately I sold that in 2002.
Jarle: Andrew Matheson & The Brats – Grown Up
Wrong
Just releasing music digitally, is that
something for you?
Åke: Single songs may well be ok, but never an
LP only. Also, I believe that there are record
labels that want to release Cat and the
Underdogs.
What do you think it is to live in Sweden today,
politically with the brown-blue mess Ebba
Busch's statement etc?
Åke: In terms of myself, I have better than I
have ever had, good job and family and a few
kronas left in the account at the end of the
month. But there are many who have a tough time,
fall outside, get no jobs, have bad feeling,
addiction and never any money, almost like the
text of Ebbas Ung & Sänkt... Well, what do you
say about the blue-brown shit? I think the
right-wing parties feel scary. How can half of
Sweden's population vote for parties that only
benefit 10% of the population?
Thomas: I find that I'm getting more and more
political for real, compared to when you as a
teenager spread a lot of political statements
because it belonged to punk. I'm more empowered
in wanting to share what I have. Feel free to
tax me, I can afford it. I often talk to my
students about how rich and how damn good we
have who drew the winning ticket to be born in
Sweden. Know that not everyone has a dance on
roses here, with alienation, drugs, violence,
poverty... But if you raise your eyes a little,
take up perspective, we have a lot of
opportunities and support in Sweden if we look
out over the world. But I get really scared of
the dark and reflect on how we ended up with
over 20% voting for SD. And how did we end up
wanting to arm and join NATO in a matter of
months. It's so often about winning votes in the
short term, not about ideas and visions for the
future. Believe in our democracy but sometimes
lose faith in humanity. CCC
Do you play a lot of gigs? Abroad?
Åke: We've done well over 30 gigs, including a
short tour of England. Stockholm Punk Rock
Weekend and Rebellion in Blackpool were really
good. We have also played some in Norway. This
summer we play at Hugo Fjäderben Kalaset in
Kalmar, Be There!
If you made a beer like many other bands do,
what would it be called and what kind would it
be?
Ake: A double IPA that would be called The Hops
are Coming, maybe Positive IPA or Time's Hop!
Thomas: An alcohol-free...
What's the best thing about playing live?
Åke: The rush, to be on a stage and that people
come to see and listen to us, unbeatable. Then
after the gig and have a beer and meet people,
unfortunately the time is usually too short.
Thomas: Sweat and adrenaline. And some
confirmation...
Jarle: The tension before and the relief after
when things have gone well and on the way to a
gig when we sit and talk both shit and
seriousness while listening to Åke's glam rock
playlist...
Snälla ranka dina fem favoritskivor, dina fem
favoritkonserter?
Åke: Skivor just nu: Saints - Eternally Yours
The Cure - Pornography David Bowie - Aladin Sane
Wire - Chairs Missing Stooges - Fun House Kollar
man vår Spotify-sida så har alla i bandet gjort
en varsin favvospellista!
Favoritkonserter: Budgie, Ishallen, Karlstad
1975 Cosmic Overdose, Musikcaféet, Karlstad 1980
Gun Club, Kolingsborg 1983 Theatre of Hate,
Rockmagazinet, Örebro 1981 Social Distortion,
Studion, Sthlm 1994
Jarle: Skivor: SLF - Nobody’s Heroes Radio
Birdman - Radios Appear Saints - Eternally Yours
Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
Wannskrækk - ... Wannskrækk.. 12"..
Konserter: Sisters of Mercy - Vikateatret, Oslo,
16 maj -85 The Cramps - Chateau Neuf, Oslo, -86
The Barracudas, Hope and Anchor, London -84
Lords of the New Church - Club 7, Oslo -82 The
Replacements - The Roundhouse, London, 3 juni
-15
The most embarrassing record in your collection?
Åke: I don't think anything that I think is
embarrassing, but there's Tommy Körberg, Taylor
Dane, Yes, The Police, etc.
Jarle: Has a Van Halen I'm thinking strongly
about why I bought in his time?!
Do you play covers live or songs from your other
bands?
Åke: We've played a lot of covers, including
songs by Gun Club, Supersuckers, Radio Birdman,
Crash, Buzzcocks, Plastic Bertrand, Sex Pistols,
Saints, etc. A few years ago, we did a Joe
Strummer tribute with just Clash songs a whole
thing, which was really good and appreciated.
There are some clips on YouTube, Clash and the
Underdogs!
If so, which ones?
Åke: I guess we've played some Hollywood Indians
song at some point.
Is theree a lot of interviews, is it boring?
Åke: For a small band like us, we appreciate
every interview, but preferably live.
What is the most common and boring question?
Åke: could probably be "What are your lyrics
about"!?
Words of wisdom?
Åke: I've might be old, but I've seen all the
good bands!
Jarle: Marching On Together!
Future plans for the band?
Åke: That the album will come, out and play as
much as possible, start recording new material
and release an EP in the future, maybe already
in the fall / winter. Rehearse Rehearse Rehearse
!
For yourself?
Åke: Get more time and do fun things that feel
good, like playing in and hanging out with Cat
and the Underdogs!
Anything to add?
Åke: Feel free to get in touch and we will come
and play for you and we are damn good!! |