Belta 53 is a really interesting group that
makes me think of early Swedish punk but still
with a modern touch. The group was so friendly
and answered a lot of questions from me in
October 2019
A little history of the group?
- It started in Haurida outside Jönköping in
2012. Jojo had a blog that Jonathan followed and
when she wrote that she was missing playing in
bands he was quick to respond. They decided to
try it together and managed to persuade Anders
to join as a drummer until they found someone
else. We never had any idea of genre but we
just played. In the beginning, we rehearsed
maybe 1-2 times a year. But in 2014 when we
applied for Livekarusellenl, things got a little
tighter between rehearsals. It has taken a while
to really find our stuff. People started calling
it punk and we decided to call the music
punkrock. Many discussions have taken place, but
now we know a little more what we want as a band
and in what direction we want to move on in.
Anna joined the band at the tambourine and
vocals in the spring 2019 and it was clearly a
lift.
Tell us a little about each member, age, job,
family, band before and band on the side?
-Jojo: I have two children. Works as a music and
leisure teacher. Plays guitar and sings in
Hoppstylta. Has been in several bands and
projects in the past, including KOnstruktivt
Illamående.
Jonathan: Works with media, has played in a lot
of bands and constellations in a whole lot of
years
Anna: Lives with cat and topgether with someone.
Works as a hotel receptionist. Belta 53 is the
only band.
Anders: Has both a job and a family. Also plays
in Spegelmannen.
I can hear much older Swedish punk like Pink
Champagne, Dom Fåglarna etc, I hear right? Was
it better back in time?
- Anders: If in the past is the 90s, yes it was.
Jonathan: I don't think it was better in the
past. It was played and released just as much
crap as it is today. We have never tried to
sound like any particular group or style, and I
think it is important to continue that way. We
are so different and have so many different
influences, and the most exciting thing is if
you mix everything up and see what the mix will
be as a result!
Jojo: One thing I think about is that in the
past it was more common for the songs on a
record with the same band to sound very
different from each other. That's a thing I
think is good. Otherwise, I do not know. Society
is progressing in development in some respects
while it is declining in others.
Belta 53, are you satisfied with the name? If
not the best band name had been taken, which
name would you have chosen? I mean which is the
best band name?
-Yes, we're happy.
Jonathan: Although a name is still just a name.
It is the music that counts.
Anna: Not everyone who is named after a cow !!
There are many good band names.
Jojo: Hoppstylta is otherwise my favorite band
name.
What's the best thing about playing live?
-Jonathan: Everything! The audience! The
feedback! The nerve! The feeling of throwing
yourself out of anything can happen! To give "everything"
to the people who come there, evn if they are 5
or 500!
Anna: And you can see the reactions right away.
Anders: To see the audience jump, dance and sing
along in the songs.
Jojo: That someone has chosen to come to listen
to us and also stay there. The feeling when
people sing along to lyrics I've written is
indescribable.
Where is the best to play, where is the worst?
-Jonathan: It's always best to play where people
listen and like what we do. It can be quite
different from time to time in one city.
Anders: Best is a decent little scene indoors.
Worst of all a big outdoor scene with lots of
room for the audience so even though it is 100
people it looks empty.
Jojo: Yeah, all the places where the audience
comes close are good. And where it is allowed
for little unknown little half-leash bands to
play. I love teenage punk bands that do their
first gigs and where the mood is that everyone
help each other.
What is it like to play this kind of punk in
Sweden today ?
-Anna: Just fine! As long as people live, this
music will be created and someone will always
recognize themselves.
Jonathan: And incredibly important in the time
we are living in right now. I feel extremely
proud every time I get to be on stage and sing
lyrics like “Everyone must have faith and think!
We have the right to live and exist! ”
Jojo: Then it's not for someone who wants to
make money. But you can find really nice little
places with fire spirits that pull together
gigs, fix good food and a place to sleep.
How would you describe your music in three words
??
-Attitude, passion, energy
What does punk mean to you, is it just a word or
is it a lifestyle?
-Anna: For me, it's more of a lifestyle than
just a word. I am who I am and do not intend to
be someone I am not, and in between comes the
punk.
Jojo: Lifestyle for me too, ever since high
school. Initially it was just the style of music
but it expanded to become a place where I can be
myself. One way to show the outside that I am
different. To stand out but still get to belong
to a group. To stand up for the weak and dare to
do my thing. DIY etc. Then I tried to be normal
for quite a few years but it did not work very
well.
Jonathan: Punk is a way of approach, not a style
of clothing or even a certain kind of music.
Punk is about going your own way and exploring
it, even if it doesn't follow the template.
Anders: Yeah, I think about the same as the rest
of the band.
Which is the group/album/ song that got you into
the punk?
-Jojo: My uncle told me about The Clash. He had
heard them at Roskilde and thought it was
something for me. That's probably how it started.
On their pink carpet, in front of the stereo
with headphones on the family party.
Anna: At first Ebba Grön, but then Attentat that
did the salvation (old Attentat not new).
Anders: I've always liked Green Day
Jonathan: I grew up when punk first came and was
influenced more by a way to be and attitudes
than necessarily by that or that artist. Then I
have a lot of different bands that I like.
How do you see on downloads, mp3s and the like?
-Anna: Have got my music there myself through
sometime so who am I to judge.
Jojo: I think it's good for music to be more
easily accessible
Jonathan: It's just like when we were recorded
each other's LPs on the cassette in the past. It
is a way to discover new music. If you like it
enough, you buy it sooner or later or go to a
gig. So it was for me and my friends at that
time.
How do you think about living in Sweden today,
politically? SD gets more and more votes?
-Anna: Some moments creepy, others absolutely
wonderful. But SD is poop.
Anders: Sad. People vote for something that is
bad for them and almost all they know. Totally
incomprehensible.
Jonathan: For me who is both an immigrant and
looks like this, it is incredibly nasty. Going
out on the town and knowing that every fifth
person you meet votes in a party that would
rather throw one out of the country is pretty
disappointing. The tone has become completely
venerable, social media is an open stinking
sewer where the human stink unit's most stinking
carcass floats to the surface. In addition, a
vast, burgeoning ignorance spreads, along with
prejudice, relativization and "alternative facts".
We have never had so much knowledge available,
at any time, in the whole history of humanity,
and yet it feels like people are becoming dumber
and more uneducated than ever. It is in such
situations that it feels more important than
ever to play with Belta 53 and go into
counter-attack with music.
Are there any good bands in Sweden today? In
your hometown?
-Anna: A lot of bands that have Jönköping as
home. Punk? Some, including Cervix and Skrammel
Jojo: And quite close as in Tranås there we
record our next album is Rövsvett and in Skövde
we have Körsbärsfettera. Otherwise, my favorites
right now are Allvaret, Arre! Arre!, Slöa
Knivar, Giftigt Avfall, Trubbel and Gatans Lag.
Jonathan: Köttgrottorna and Dead Pollys are two
that I can pull off the hat on a standing foot.
Do you play anything outside Sweden?
-We have played at Huset KBH in Copenhagen. But
it would be fun to get out and play more.
Other good bands from abroad?
-Jojo: I want to tell you about Jigsaw Youth.
Three young people from NYC USA mixing punk and
grunge. Real fat. Then Honningbarna from Norway
are fine
Jonathan: Ampex, TDK, BASF LGR-50. But on a
roll, not cassette tape, etc.
Your lyrics, what influences you? Never in a
language other than Swedish?
-Jojo: I only write in Swedish as I find it
difficult to get well-written texts in English.
The texts are important to me both when I write
myself and listen to others. It somehow becomes
more personal and more approachable in Swedish.
Other lyricwriters I am inspired by are Joakim
Thåström, Mart Hällgren and Veronica Maggio. The
topics I write about are things I am passionate
about right now or have strong feelings for me.
It can be politics, love or really anything.
Is there anything you will never write about? Or
is there nothing which is sacred?
-Anna: In my opinion, nothing is sacred. But I'm
not alone in the band so ...
Jonathan: The most important thing is that
everyone in the band can handle the lyrics to
100%. Then it will be good and will come from
within.
Jojo: We will never kick down. The boots we hand
out are dedicated to those in power, bullies and
those with privileges.
Tell us a bit about the songs Flexitarianer and
En kväll i augusti?
-In the song Flexitarian(Flexitarianer) we
follow a pig from birth to slaughter. Everyone
in Belta 53 is not a vegetarian and we are not
looking to judge anyone. However, we want to
raise the idea that every time you eat meat, it
is an animal that has been killed. We simply
want to give the pig a voice.
One evening in August(En kväll i augusti) was
written after a horrific incident in Huskvarna
in the fall of 2018. A man died after being
beaten by children and teenagers. With the song
we want to honor his memory and at the same time
remind us that we must never be silent. We must
stand up for the equal value of all people. We
need to talk about it but also show it in our
way to act. We must never let hate take over.
Politics and music, does it always belong
together ?
- Anders: It doesn't have to be, but I think it
will be more interesting.
Jonathan: It's like asking about love and music
always comes together.
Anna: On the other hand, it becomes easy so you
can probably understand where you stand through
your texts.
Best political band / artist?
-Anna: Dead Kennedy's Jello Biafra hahaha now
that he's the only one I know who actually
almost got anywhere in politics.
Jojo: The Baboon Show. Then I grew up with Björn
Afzelius and Mikael Wiehe.
Jonathan: Belta 53
Do you think music can change someone's life,
then I mean lyrics etc?
-Anders: Well, it can affect a lot.
Anna: Well, wouldn't have been who I am today if
not the music have been there.
Jonathan: Absolutely! It has done that for me.
Jojo: The text in DLK's Troll och häxor made me
catch the eye of racism that was normalizing
even when I was in high school. DLK was tough
and I didn't want to be the one who believed in
trolls and witches.
Your cover is really cool on your CD, who did
it. Is it important to have a cover that you
understand what kind of music you are playing?
Which is your favorite cover of all time?
-Anna: I ... With the help of my partner.
Favorite Cover? Wow a lot.
Jojo: For me, it's important that the cover is
appealing, feels fresh and matches the contents
of the disc. My favorite cover right now is
probably this. Otherwise it's Pride And
Prejudice with Beyond Pink.
Jonathan: Check out the blog "katastrofala
omslag", it's a good place to know how NOT to do
...
Is it important to get out physical discs? Vinyl
or CD or both and? Is there any good record
store in your area? The latest ep are you just
releasing digitally or?
-Anna: South End Records is probably the only
record store we have in town, just moved to a
fine local!
Jojo: Om du faller is only released on digital
platforms.
Anders: It is a bit of fun with physical discs
but if there is no demand, it is just
unnecessary to print up a lot of discs.
Jonathan: Releasing digitally is becoming more
environmentally friendly.
Please tell us something really fun that
happened during your career on stage or behind
the scenes etc?
-Anna: When we were support to The Vibrators,
the singer (Nigel Bennett), who was sitting and
working on the computer while we were playing,
took off his headphones and stood up to listen
to us. And so he said "This is a good band" even
though he doesn't understand a word of Swedish.
Jonathan: We've played twice on the radio, on
different radio channels - and both times Jojo
damaged a string on the bass. Which she never
does otherwise.
Anders: More tragic, maybe, when I threw a
t-shirt in the crowd and nobody wanted it. Got
to pick it up from a water pool after the gig.
Jojo: I think I say or do embarrassing things
that others have fun with about every gig.
Fortunately, I have no sense of being ashamed.
How does your audience look like? What type of
people? Do you miss any types of people?
-Anna: Think we have all kinds of people,
everything from punks to non punks.
Jojo: After all, we are not that hard and we are
a bit different within the band. So we might
attract some different types of people.
Jonathan: We play for those who are there, if
only the audio engineer. Everyone is welcome! If
you focus on those who are not there, you insult
those who have made it
to get there. They have the right to get
maximum focus from us.
Please rank five favorite records, five favorite
concerts?
-Jojo: Records: Allvaret – Skam och skuld,
Beyond Pink – Pride and prejudice, Matriarkatet
– Antiklimax, The Baboon Show - People´s
Republic of The Baboon Show Formerly Known as
Sweden, Trubbel - Snestegsvalsen (but I love
evrything with Trubbel). Concerts: Thåström –
Huskvarna Folkets Park 2002, Trubbel/ Tiger Bell
- Pinnen i Nässjö 2014, KSMB – The reunion on
Bråvalla 2015, Honningbarna – West Coast Riot
2016, Arre! Arre!/ Vånna Inget – Punk i Parken
in Malmö 2016
Jonathan: Records: Dag Vag: Scenbuddism, Peter
Gabriel: Us, Kebnekajse: III, Cream: Goodbye,
The Jam: Live Jam. Concerts: Ebba Grön/Dag Vag,
Huskvarna Folkets park, 1980, Peps Persson,
Jönköping, 1984, Bruce Springsteen, Ullevi,
1985, Abraham Laboriel, Missionskyrkan Bankeryd,
1994, Peter Gabriel, Globen, 2014
Anna: Write what I feel right now. Skivor: 1.
Pink champagne - Vackra pojke. 2. Xray-spex peel
session and more 3. Everything with Ramones 4.
My compilation CD with Troublemakers 5. Mögel
Mögel
Anders: Broder Daniel - Cruel town, Green Day -
American Idiot
A really good concert was System of a Down on
Hultsfredsfestivalen 2005
Is it boring with interviews?
-Anna: No, but som many questions, feeling the
pressure haha.
Jonathan: …snark… zzzzzz… what… what did you say?
If you could played together with five bands,
both dead and alive bands and have a concert
with your band, which five have you been chosen?
-Anna: Ramones have been awesome!
Jojo: Bikini Kill, Pussy Riot, The Runaways, The
Baboon Show, Beyond Pink.
Jonathan: Dag Vag line-up 1979-81, The Jam, Dead
Pollys, M A Numminen, Spike Jones and his City
Slickers
Anders: Broder Daniel, Turbonegro (old),
Ganglion, Sibirian Meat Grinder, Hellacopters
Is music a good way to get out frustration and
become a kinder person? Are you angrier today
than you were as a young punk?
-Jojo: I'm angry in a different way today. And
I'm probably a little more nuanced in my anger.
Then I didn't really have the knowledge to argue
for all the injustices I experienced. For
example, the guys took precedence over the "tough"
instruments and in addition all possible other
benefits. I tried to distance myself from girls
for a while because I was so tired of being
placed in that compartment. Now I know better
and value the sisterhood in a completely
different way. And music is clearly a more
constructive way of channeling anger than
kicking things apart.
Anders: I'm probably more nuanced today, but
possibly angrier than before.
Anna: Think music is a great way to get out of
all the emotions, not just frustration. And I'm
probably as angry today as I was when it
occurred to me.
Jonathan: The day I stop being angry at the
conditions in the world, it's probably out with
me.
What is the strangest question you received in
an interview?
-This
What is the question you never get, ask it and
answer it?
-Jojo: How many pedals does Jonathan have in his
bag?
Jonathan: Right now 7 pcs. But that may change.
Future plans for the band?
-Play more, continue to develop, and to continue
to be against racism and all forms of
discrimination.
For yourself?
-Jonathan: Same answer as the question above.
Jojo: Right now I'm just looking forward to a
free weekend and getting to sleep haha.
Anna: Stress less, say no to overtime at work.
Anders: I want to be a good fellow and develop
as a musician and lyricwriter.
Words of wisdom?
-Jonathan: Anyone who doesn't learn from history
is doomed to repeat its mistakes. Everything you
want people to do to you, do that to them. The
truth should set you free.
Anders: Behave yourself! It might pay off.
Jojo: Always be true to yourself.
Anna: Life is a bitch and then you die.
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