Mad
Mulligans is a new really good punk/streetpunkgroup
which really want to talk about themselves, so
read and enjoy….may 2021.
Johnny
Kray - Vocals/Guitar
Wynn Skism -
Vocals/Bass
Albee
Damned - Vocals/Guitar
Rich O’Brien
Vocals/Drums
Please
tell me a little bit history of the group?
Rich O’Brien
- Albee kept bugging me to record vocals over
his damn casio recordings so I did. He buried
most of em but left a couple of my ill Bathory
screams in there. Now he wants me to drum but I
want everyone to know that Albee gets full
credit for drums on the recording hahaha
Albee Damned
- It started out with 2 songs I had in my
head...I recorded them and wrote the
lyrics...then I sent them out to everyone I knew
for some anthem style vocals..This was right at
the time of the lockdown..When we weren´t able
to go to the studio with our regular bands we
just kept recording...I have an electronic
drumset in the house so i recorded all the drums
for the first release...Rich hates them and
abuses me for it...He hurts my feelings and
sometimes I cry at night....He´s gonna have to
put his money where his mouth is and show us
what hes got for the next one
Johnny
Kray
- The 1st Covid lockdown put me home for months.
I set up a small recording set up in the bedroom
and started writing and recording. Albee had
some tracks he needed backup vocals for and then
started sending some incomplete stuff. Then we
got to work finishing them up. The ep started
taking form. Albee did most of the leg work,
mixing and bashing away on his Casio keyboard
drum set. And there you go.
Albee
- I sent songs out to dozens of friends and got
back from about 11 people..these guys
contributed most, and I figured why not
form a band from this..Everyone that
submitted vocals is credited in the band, but us
4 are the actual line-up now
Please
tell me a little about every member in the group
right now, age, family, work, interests and
something bad about everyone? You´re a lot of
people? Earlier bands? Other bands on the side?
Albee
- We're a bunch of old brooklyn bastids...we
range from late 40s to early 50s..we got older
but we never grew up...I´m a union plumber in my
real life...Wynn does bridge and tunnel
maintenance..Rich does office shit.. I´m not
sure he wants anything out there for public view
so I'll leave it at that...Johnny works in the
music industry
Rich-
“Office shit” yeah, that works fine. White
collar, 1-2-3-4! I’ve always only played music
“on the side”. The pay is too low and I’ve got a
big mortgage. My longest running side is the
same band I first did in 1992. We have the same
following as then… well less now in fact because
they’re all are aging out and passing away.
(Don’t tell the other guys but I’m secretly just
along for the ride to poach some of their fans.)
Wynn
– like
most I need a job to pay the bills, but I’d much
prefer to make a living in music or art, but
it’s difficult enough just to get them to be
self-sustaining much less profitable..
I can
hear much different influences but mostly punk
and oi music? Favorites from the past?
Rich
- Yes, they’re all from the past.
Johnny
- Too many to list really.
Albee
- When I was a kid I took some guitar
lessons...the guy started showing me nothing but
scales and some other bullshit the first 2 times
I went...the third time I showed up, I brought
the first clash album...I said show me how to
play this...we went through about 6 songs that
day...as I was leaving he asked..same time next
week?..I says, nah...I got everything I need to
know now
Mad
Mulligans
are you satisfied with the name? How did
it came up? What is a Mulligan?
You
weren’t afraid that some other band would be
named like this? Which is the best bandname you
know?
Albee
- Mad Mulligans is something that just popped in
my head one day..I checked the internet and it
looked clear enough for me so we decided to use
it...Mulligan is not just a surname, here in the
states we use it as a term for a do over, which
fits exactly what we are doing...Mad has a
double meaning of pissed off or crazy, which
both can suit each of us as well.
..as far
as the name, it flows well and I’m pretty sure
we all like it...Some other great band names i
can think of were Endangered Feces and Barney
Rubble and the Cunt Stubble
Rich
- Barney Rubble and the Cunt Stubble is
definitely my #1. No Place To Piss – really
would wish I came up with that one. The Dry
Heaves is also really good. Darkside NYC is the
name that has cost me the most.
What´s
the best thing with playing live? Do you miss it
now in covid-times? Or are you so new group that
you haven´t had the chance to play live yet?
Rich
- My favorite part about playing live is when
someone else sets up my gear and the beer is
cold and provided in ample quantities. But I’ve
also been known to sneak a cooler in the merch
bins in a pinch.
Albee
- The best part of live shows are the friends
for decades that we only get to see at
venues...Also looking out and seeing everyone
singing the songs back to you is an experience
that still gives us the chills...You put all
your soul and energy into creating these
songs...The acceptance and appreciation is
vindicating of all the pain and emotion of them.
..We
haven’t gotten to play out yet due to NYC
restrictions but that will change for us
And where
is best to play? And the worst place? Have you
booked any gigs yet?
Rich
- I’ve
played some real dumps that turned out to be
great gigs and then had a miserable fucking time
at so-called “real venues” that everyone else
thought was awesome, so who even knows anymore,
haha
Johnny
- Bars
and small clubs are usually fun. If they have
enough sound gear for the place. CBGB's was
obviously the best. Was home for us. We knew
everyone that worked there, and the sound was
the best in the world. No shit.
Albee
- Yeah..CBs was the place...I took one of the
bartenders home over 20 years ago and I´m still
waiting for her to leave
How is to
play this sort of music in USA right now?
Which types of bands do you have concerts
together with?
Is mostly punkbands?
Rich
- At our level, we just kind of do what we want
and when we want. There are no career
aspirations for this kind of thing. This shit is
easy as fuck for me to play, so I can have a bit
of fun with it. My other band is overly
complicated and often taxing.
How would
you describe your music in three words?
Albee
- Traditional oi/punk
Rich
- casio-core albee-tdown krayceedeecee
What does
punk mean to you, is it only a word or is it a
lifestyle?
Have that changed through the years?
Rich
- Everything changes all the time, doesn’t it?
And not usually for the best – mostly it’s the
opposite. But “punk” – for me – needs to have a
some direct lineage to The Ramones and The Sex
Pistols and The Stooges… or it isn’t. I
never dressed like anything so that part never
really made any difference to me.
Which
song/album or group was it who took you into
punk/hardcore?
Johnny
- Guess it was the Misfits that first got me
towards punk. Later the Business, Slaughter and
the dogs, the Adicts. first big hardcore record
for me was probably Age Of Quarrel by the
Cro-Mags. Breakdowns demo was huge for me as
well. 1st Sick of it All album
Albee
- It would be hard to pinpoint because it was a
sort of progression from Kiss in the 70s to
Maiden then Metallica to SOD...in the mid 80s I
personally lost interest in all metal as it
became over produced, goofy hair metal..I found
myself listening to NYHC radio shows at college
stations and borrowing GBH and Exploited albums
Rich
- The Clash “London Calling” in 1982. I meant to
buy the one with the hot song on the radio at
the time but it turned out not to be on there. I
was a bit
annoyed at first haha, but when I ended up
getting “Combat Rock”, I thought “London
Calling” was definitely better. Still an
all-time fave. Don’t remember my actual first
hardcore record, but I did get S.O.D. when it
came out in ’85, and got all the Combat Core and
Profile stuff (Cro-Mags, Crumbsuckers, Agnostic
Front)
– and that was ’86. My first real paying
job was in ’87 so that’s when I really went to
town buying tons of records. D.R.I. was another
early favorite. I’d like to actually thank Danny
Lilker’s t-shirt collection for giving me my
initial start, haha
Wynn
– While I
had be listening to the populars like Ramones,
Sex Pistols, Misfits, when I heard the Damned
and Then Stiff Little fingers on “the Peel
Sessions” I was hooked. Damned Damned Damned
really got me into punk… The Damned album of
course, not to get confused with Albee
What
shall a young guy do today to shock their
parents as the way we did when we were young?
They have already seen everything ;-)?
Rich
- Kids would need to start chopping off limbs.
Growing horns. Getting forked tongue extensions
like lizards. What about big glass windows in
their foreheads so you could watch their
dendrites and blood vessels pulsate? If we can
imagine it, some day someone is going to try it.
Albee
- If my kids wanted to shock me they´d have to
become bankers or lawyers...Those little
bastards are as misfit as I ever was
How is it
to live in USA right now? Politically?
Fascists?
Now then Trump is gone?
Rich
- We live in Brooklyn, NYC. We aren’t
responsible for the rest of the country. It may
as well be a different part of the world. It’s
only very recently that politics has become such
a frequent topic of discussion. Some people feel
you need to mirror their exact opinions or it’s
an immediate argument or debate. I’ve got zero
interest in any of that. Let’s argue over what
band put out the shittiest second LP or
something instead…
Albee
- And that´s that
Is there
any good bands from USA right now?
Is the punkscene/oiscene/hardcorescene
big? How is it in your hometown?
Albee
- Oi isn´t as predominant in the NYC scene as it
once was and that’s a disappointment...We used
to run side by side with the punk scene but this
isn’t the case anymore…i’d love to start seeing
punks and skins together at shows again.
What do
you know about Sweden?
Have you been here sometime?
Rich
- Never been, but might be going to Finland next
year.
Have you
heard any good bands from Sweden?
Rich
- I love old school Swedish punk and metal.
Anti-Cimex, Totalitär, Mob 47, Shitlickers. All
that crusty d-beat shit from the 80s. Also used
to jam a lot of early death and black metal.
That stuff still rules. Unleashed, Entombed,
Dawn, Dissection, etc. Don’t really know any oi!
from Sweden specifically.
Johnny
- Love Asta Kask
Your
lyrics, who does them and what influences you?
And your songs how do you do them? Is
there any one in the group which comes up with a
song or do you do them in the rehearsalroom?
Albee
- We all play multiple instruments on the
EP...and we all sing lead vocals on it...I laid
down the drum tracks only because it was
convenient at the time of lockdown, but Rich is
the actual drummer...We all contribute to the
songs equally...since we formed and recorded
during covid lockdown, the first songs were
written and recorded remotely.
Rich
- This guy’s lying. Albee did everything. He
just wants to rope us in to his shenanigans.
Is there
any subject that you never will write anything
about?
Or isn´t anything sacred?
Rich
- I will never write a song about unity.
Politic
and music, does it goes hand in hand?
Which is your most political song?
Is it important to get out your opinions
in music?
Albee
- Ihe most political song we have is probably
Bricks and batteries..it’s about taking to the
streets and overthrowing an oppressive
regime..I’m a union construction worker and have
been involved in a lot of rallys through the
streets of NYC..one particular one got ugly…
...Remember, bricks are for up close damage, but
batteries are better for distance
Rich
- I personally avoid politics usually, because
it is so polarizing and that’s not the point of
making music. I do reference lots of things for
sarcasm, satire and humor. Preaching is so
boring also. Tell a story. Rhyme some shit that
makes someone say “oh shit”! Be entertaining.
Best
political band/artist?
Johnny
- I guess
The Restarts would be my choice for best polital
punk band going. But really I just see them as
one of the best Punk bands in the world right
now, political or otherwise.
Rich
- It’s not a category I’m particularly familiar
with. I’m sure I listen to a million bands that
sing political themes. Dead Kennedys did it in a
hilarious satirical way. Discharge spawned a
thousand anti-war bands. The Pistols took the
piss out of society in general. I never went for
bands because their opinions or politics
resonated with me. Many definitely don’t. My
Ipod may even be on a watchlist or two, haha
Do you
think that music(lyrics and so on) can change
anyones life, I mean people who listens to
music? Any example?
Wynn
-
I do think that music has an effect on people's
lives, whether it brings back old memories,
reflects your feelings or just makes you want to
jump around and break things. But, contrary to
what many politicians and "spiritual leaders"
say,
it's very rare that music causes someone
to go down a bad road. Usually kids select music
that represents what they are feeling at the
moment and I think often it helps knowing
someone else understands how they are feeling,
even if it is just some guy screaming in a song.
Johnny
- For sure it can change lives. For lots of
people in the world, and definitely for
punk/hardcore people, I think music is hugely
important. It's motivational, or just plain
energy charging.
Rich
- Music kept me out of jail and/or the grave.
True story. I read accounts every so often where
someone will be in a really dark place and a
particular band or album will just speak to them
and help them out of there. That’s pretty huge.
For me, the music became more of a cultural
thing to the point where I don’t even go to
watch bands so much as to catch up with people.
Albee
-I think punk inspired and enabled me to be a
become a bigger asshole
Your
favorite recordcover alltime?
Who does your recordcovers?
And do you have any good recordstores in
your hometown?
Rich
- Iron Maiden’s first 5 string of LPs – no one
ever touched them artwise. You went every year
to see what was gonna happen to Eddie, haha. In
NYC, Generation Records is still kicking. 210
Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012. 00-1-212-254-1100.
(Yes, that’s exactly how you’d call from
Sweden!) Great store owned by and run by fans of
what we do. Great selections of metal, hardcore,
punk, oi!, rock. A good used section. T-shirts.
If you’re ever in NYC this would be a must. They
also do tons of mail-order and any time one of
us old fucks gets into financial difficulties,
they’d be the ones who unload the rare records
for us.
Johnny
- What Rich just said!!
Is it
important to get out physical records of your
stuff? Why or why not? Vinyl, CD, cassette, what
do you prefer if you could choose whatever?
Would it feel the same to only release a
record digitally?
Rich
- Digital only exists in your imagination. At
least press a small run or why even bother
calling it an album. Come on. Who cares if only
100 or 1,000 are gonna get sold? Put up or why
should anyone else ever bother?
Wynn
-
There's just something great about the tactile
feel of a physical disc, the cover art, opening
it up, looking through the liner notes, reading
the lyrics, and vinyl was even better, pulling
out the sleeve, looking at the album where the
song breaks were. Plus on an Vinyl and
especially a cassette you really had to listen
to the whole album, you couldn't just skip to
the next song. A lot of songs that I love are
ones that grew on me.
Albee
- I don´t think you can call it an album if it´s
not on a physical release...even a demo tape has
more clout to me than a bandcamp only release
Please
tell me a funny thing which have happened during
your career and under some gig? With this band
or any other band you have been to?
Rich
- Most of my gigs have been funny. I once drank
Wild Irish Rose and puked a little bit right on
the mic just before a bunch of people grabbed it
to sing along. I was just like “whooops”.
Albee
- I was playing with the Krays at The house of
blues in Boston and wearing my 20 year old
oxbloods...the soles are so flat they flew out
from under me and I busted my ass in front of
about 2000 people...
..The
next day we were back in brooklyn and after a
jump I landed on a beer can and busted my ass
again
Wynn
- We were about to hop in a van to get to a show
when I decided to take a piss before going. When
I got out of the toilet, the room was empty and
I found myself locked in (you needed the key to
lock and unlock the door, from the inside as
well at this hotel).
I tried
calling and texting everybody on the phone but
no one answered. I looked out the hotel window
to see the rest of the guys downstairs looking
around confused (apparently wondering where I
am). I had to shout out the window to get their
attention to come back up and let me out.
Bassists get no respect
How does
your audience look like? Which people do you
miss on your concerts? Ages? Which is the
biggest band you ever have played together with?
Rich
- My audience looks like they’d rather be
somewhere else. Which people do I miss? Most of
them! The ones who didn’t make it! Haha
Albee
- Being in The Krays a few times gave me some
great oppurtunities..but the biggest I ever did
with them, was the St Patricks Day run with
Dropkick Murphys in Boston..that´s the show I
busted my ass at
Please
rank your five favoriterecords, five
favoriteconcerts and five most important things
in life?
Rich
- I can’t rank like that. I’ll instead just name
some personal landmarks. AC/DC – Back In Black.
The Doors – Strange Days. The Rolling Stones –
Sticky Fingers. Celtic Frost – Morbid Tales. Oh,
I’ve got to say something punk now right? Or
else!
The early NYHC compilation “NY Thrash” is
one not many people speak on but has so many
great unsung bands. Lately I’ve been revisiting
Cock Sparrer “Shock Troops” on car rides and I’m
always down for the early Discharge and Venom
singles.
First,
last and most expensive record ever bought? And
which is the most embarrassing record in your
collection?
Rich
- I once paid $40 for a Rest In Pieces 7” at
Bleecker Bobs. This was back in 1990. It’s
probably worth hundreds now.
My most
embarrassing record is definitely The Krays
doing disco hits. What was Jon thinking?
Hahahaha It’s so good he returned to punk.
Johnny
- I was going for a Disco Mickey Mouse feel.
That was a monumental record for me as a kid!
But going back to punk was the better move for
me, creatively speaking!!
I paid $50 years ago for Slaughter and
the Dogs - Do It Dog Style. Also paid $50 for
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty. I have no
regrets.
Albee
- My first was probably Destroyer by Kiss...the
last were some punkboot compilation CDs put out
last year..I never cared about having original
pressed albums so I dont think I ever spent more
than 20 bucks on an record...i´d rather buy beer
Is it
boring with interviews? Is it much interviews?
Rich
- This might be the most excitement I’ve had
answering questions in a long time. These are
actually really good!
Albee
– It´s a pain in the ass doing these by
yourself, but when you got these knobs to banter
with, it makes it more fun
Johnny
- Interviews are great.
Do you
care about reviews? Which is the most peculiar
you ever had, with this band or any other band
you have been to?
Rich
- I only read the favorable ones. Albee sends
the bad ones to Jon to make sure he doesn’t get
too cocky.
Johnny
- It does keep me humble!
Albee
– I´m waiting for a bad review...those are the
best ones..you can´t laugh at good reviews...but
the bad ones are talked about among us for years
Which
bands do people compare you to, is it boring
that people compare you to other bands or is it
understandable?
Albee
- We are being compared to early British oi
bands such as Blitz, Sham 69, the Business,
etc...But those are names we associated
ourselves with to describe the band...Everyone
that described us since seems to agree
Rich
- Wait until I start incorporating blast parts,
heh heh
Albee
- You been blasting us with IPA farts for years
If you
could choose five bands from the past and the
history and nowadays and both dead and living
bands to have a concert together with your band.
Which five have you been chosen?
Rich
- The Rolling Stones, The Clash, AC/DC, Thin
Lizzy, Motörhead , The Ramones and the Bad
Brains. This would be a world tour naturally and
we would go on right in the middle.
Johnny
- From bands that are gone, I'd say Motorhead,
Thin Lizzy, The Ruts (with Malcolm Owen), The
Kinks.
Is music
a good way to get out frustration and become a
nicer person outside the music?
Rich
- This is quite possible hahaha. Without this
kind of outlet I may be writing this with a
small pencil on a metal desk wearing stupid
flipflops listening to guards yell instead of
tapping on a fancy phone with a cold drink on my
porch.
Wynn
- I'd probably really be a huge jerk if I didn't
have music as an outlet, instead of just a
curmudgeon
Which is
the most odd question you ever have got in an
interview?(Except this one)
Rich
- Something about penises; I left that one out.
Albee
- Thats because you´re a big prick
Which is
the question you want to have but you never get.
Please ask it and answer it?
Rich
- Version 1 – Q: “Hey would you like us to hook
you up with a full beer endorsement?” A: “Yes
please.”
Version 2 –
Q: “And beer?” A: “And beer”
Futureplans for the band?
Albee
- This band is gonna go where it wants to...It´s
set up to be its own element...No one member is
more important than another...None of us are
tied down to the band and anyone can come in and
be a part of it
Rich
- Wherever Albee is willing to drive me, I’ll
come along. I would say there should be some
limits on “anyone” being a part of it. Careful
there, Albee. Axe may wanna do a duet.
For
yourself?
Albee
- As of now my only plans are to keep breathing
and playing music
Rich
- Retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy
it. Be financially set. Finish organizing all my
CD-Rs and digitizing all my tapes. This might
actually not occur in my lifetime.
Wisdomword?
Rich
- Don’t waste your time. Make plans and keep
them. Save a percent of your money and let it
build up so you have something to fall back on
when you’re old and decrepit. Don’t smoke; It’ll
kill you too fast.
Albee
- You can´t have a morning pint if you wait till
lunchtime
Something
to add?
Rich
- What 36 wasn’t quite enough?
Wynn
- 6+7 |